Q: How do you start to practice psycho-spiritually?

A: In the same way that one begins on any spiritual path, in the dual states of doubt and faith from which one questions everythingand take the assumption that the world you see is not the world as it is, but simply the objective world of one’s inner life projected outward as one’s own interpretation of the world. When you give up description, opinion, and understanding, and you realize that you don’t have to take a position relative to other the intuition dawns within you that you are not separate from anything else.

Q: But if you are not separate from anything else, how would you live?

A: In congruence and truth, from the central heart of compassion for all living forms that arise in consciousness. You see that the world is not how we see it; it really is very different from our phenomenal, materialistic and relative way of looking at it.

Q: So when we see it like this, are we happy?

A: Yes, but not in the way you think of happiness from the relative point of view, which is happiness balanced or contrasted with unhappiness, misery, depression, etc. This is a happiness that does not depend on external circumstances.

Q: So it is not associated with the satisfaction or fulfillment of wishes?

A: Happiness is an attitude, a way of approaching the world and knowing the events knowing that everything is fundamentally as it should be. Suffering is essentially of two varieties: conscious and unconscious. In unconscious suffering we do not realize that our attachment to circumstances, positive or negative, is the fundamental cause of suffering. We perpetuate suffering by remaining attached to conditions, and these conditions will change: has to change inevitably, because that is the nature of life; change is intrinsic to life and we are powerless to change that. But if we can embrace suffering and see that it is the means to our personal liberation, we remove the “sting” and face it happily. Whatever happens, we are fundamentally in touch with our true self and that true self exists within a fundamentally happy condition.

Q: Could this happiness be thought of as the goal of psychospiritual psychotherapy?

A: Maybe, but ultimately, there should be no goal other than being who you are …

P: … and then you will see the world as it is.

A: Yes, exactly! You will see the world as it is.